Chris: How did you develop the Frank Ape character?
Brandon: It was around 2011, I was living in Bushwick and was getting back into painting and visual art. I was exploring new things and not really thinking too much about what I was doing but just hanging huge canvases in my apartment and banging them out really fast. And then I wanted to do more simple things that had a character with words on the canvas, but I didn’t know if the words were like, coming out of this characters’ mouth or they were being spoken to the character, but I needed a character to receive messages or somehow be surrounded by them. I was looking for someone who wasn’t quite a person, and wasn’t quite an animal, but who had emotions, who was wise and felt things deeply. That’s how Frank was born. The first painting I did was him with a fire burning in the background and that said, “Relax, this is only a dream.”
Chris: And where did the name “Frank” come from?
Brandon: It was the first name that came to mind. I was looking for a cool everyman kinda name and soon people were like, “Yo, it’s Frank!” so I decided not to change it.
Chris: I’m curious, how did you conclude that your “new thing” would be a character, especially a wise and sensitive ape? Why not an abstract self-portrait series or some other kind of introspective project?
Brandon: Well I really enjoy making stuff that I like, and that other people can connect with. It’s a kind of therapy for me. The character I guess was maybe just a manifestation of how I’d grown up and all the negative stuff I’d been through in the past. I think I was trying to find my voice in this new, positive way but I didn’t have the confidence, so I needed the voice to come from someone else rather than from me directly.
Chris: How did Frank’s world become so colorful and happy and encouraging? What kind of environments or experiences did you have in the past that led you to become this super positive person and artist?
Brandon: I think I’m trying to make up for lost time in a way with being positive in my art and how I conduct myself in the world. When I was around 13 or 14 I was rebelling like a lot of teens, but I went through that phase extra hard. I ended up getting kicked out of my house when I was 14 and living in group homes until I was 16 or 17. I was fucking up and wildin’ out and my Mom and her boyfriend just couldn’t control me.
Chris: This was in Toronto?
Brandon: Yeah, Toronto. I was selling drugs and trying to do music and stuff like that, getting into beef and having legal issues.